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The Man Who Loves To Hate

News: The Rev. Fred Phelps is dismissed by some. Those who really know him know better.

March/April 1999 Issue


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The Rev. Fred Phelps stands out from a block away. Sixty-nine years old, Phelps is tall and reedy; his white hair billows out from under a cowboy hat. Like a latter-day Moses, he holds in each hand bright yellow-and-orange posters: "Baptist 666 Fags" and "Matt in Hell." You need to get closer, though, to recognize the accompanying photographs: the Rev. Jerry Falwell and Matthew Shepard, the 21-year-old Wyoming man beaten to death because he was gay.

It's December 8 in downtown Nashville, Tennessee, the day of the funeral for Al Gore Sr., a former senator and the vice president's father. Gore has earned Phelps' ire because, according to Phelps, his son "sold his soul to the fag agenda." Falwell earned it partly because he called Phelps a "first-class nut." And Shepard -- "that little fag," as Phelps refers to him -- earned it, well, by being gay. It's in this way, a Day-Glo vision of defiant hatred, that Phelps wants the world to see him.

Today, few people will see him at all. The Nashville police and the Secret Service have forced Phelps and his small group of followers -- wife Margie, three of Phelps' 13 adult children, and a daughter-in-law -- to a corner behind the site of the memorial service. There's little chance that any of the dignitaries attending the service, including both the president and vice president, will be able to see the group in this location. Nor, for that matter, will many in Nashville: The police have shut down much of downtown, cordoning it off for the ceremony.

Two months earlier, when the Phelpses showed up at Shepard's funeral, their protest brought them unprecedented public scorn. The outcry even prompted religious leaders known for their denouncements of homosexuality -- Falwell and the Family Research Council's Gary Bauer -- to take great pains to distance themselves from Phelps. But he is used to such a response. The Shepard protest was only the latest in a line of publicity stunts that the Phelpses started pulling in 1991, and their funeral pickets -- which have included those for Barry Goldwater, Sonny Bono, Bill Clinton's mother, and noted gay journalist Randy Shilts'have proved a successful formula for fomenting outrage and, perhaps most important, attracting media coverage.

What's unclear is how effective the protests are. "I think right now they just look mean and extreme," says Elizabeth Birch, executive director of the Human Rights Campaign, the largest gay rights organization in the country. And while Phelps' extremism may tempt some to dismiss his group as a mere lunatic fringe, Birch concedes that he could also shift the political spectrum, making less hysterical anti-gay figures -- such as Falwell, Bauer, and Sen. Trent Lott (R-Miss.) -- appear more moderate. Says Birch, "Phelps plays the role in the antigay movement that [Operation Rescue founder Randall Terry] played in the anti-abortion movement."

Still, she says, Phelps is hard to take seriously. His demonstrations get press, Birch admits, but she dismisses them as "callous theater."

In Nashville, Phelps' theater gets almost no audience: The two-hour protest nets not a single press clip for his files. But as he and his family carefully pack up their signs and head to the airport, Phelps remains upbeat: "We're going to be on the 'Jerry Springer Show' next week, you know."

Phelps was approached by a producer for the show during two visits to Chicago to protest the marriage of a lesbian couple. On the second trip, during the wedding ceremony, the 12 members of Phelps' group were met by an estimated 1,500 counterprotesters.

Phelps says he understands the format of the show, and he's looking forward to his showdown with gay advocates. "They should get Elizabeth Birch," he says. "Of course, she's a dyke, but she clearly is articulate and capable." And he's not concerned about the show's style, saying, "They assured us they would not get someone who would be yelling and cursing."

Phelps' Westboro Baptist Church has been a fixture in the small city of Topeka, Kansas (population 120,000), for 44 years. These days, the church feels like a bunker -- from its chain-link fence to its sign pockmarked from gunshots and the enormous American flag hanging at half-staff and upside down in front of the building. "It's the signal for distress, because those are the times we are living," says Phelps.

At first, Phelps is soft-spoken; he seems almost gentle. In this atmosphere, his frequent references to "fags" and "dykes" explode like firecrackers. When he goes to a local barbershop to get his hair trimmed in preparation for his Springer appearance, he waits outside in near-freezing temperatures until it's time for his appointment, too shy to interrupt the two beauticians and their matronly customers. Phelps is an outsider, and he has spent his life actively pursuing that role.

His regular performances as a fire-and-brimstone preacher started long ago. Hanging on his office wall is a framed article from a 1951 issue of Time, which describes the 21-year-old Phelps, then a student at John Muir College in Pasadena, California, preaching to fellow students against "promiscuous petting" and "pandering to lusts of the flesh."

He launched Westboro in 1955 after he and Margie moved to Topeka; in 1962, he earned a law degree from nearby Washburn University. That's when this icon of religious intolerance became a civil rights attorney. "I systematically brought down the Jim Crow laws of this town," he says. While this is clearly an overstatement, local officials confirm that he approached this earlier cause with customary zeal.

Phelps sees no difference between the cause he stood for then and the one he stands for now. Today, he says, the increasing acceptance of gays in America reflects a growing immorality to which much of society is turning a blind eye, just as it once did to racial discrimination. And considering how unpopular his cause as a civil rights attorney must have been in Kansas in the early 1960s, it's not surprising Phelps would link the two. Once again, it's Phelps against the world. And the world is wrong.

His career as a lawyer ended in 1979, when Phelps was disbarred by the state of Kansas for allegedly being too abusive to witnesses. Phelps seems to have compensated for being forced to leave the law by grooming his children to take up the profession: Eleven of his children now have law degrees.

Phelps remained prominent in state and local politics, working for years as a major organizer for the state's Democratic Party. (He still calls himself a Democrat, refusing to change just because his party has.) In 1988, Phelps housed campaign workers for Al Gore's first presidential run; in 1989, his eldest son, Fred Jr., hosted a fundraiser for Gore's Senate campaign at his home.

Phelps has frequently run for public office -- for governor in 1990, '94, and '98, for the Senate in '92 -- always losing the primaries by a landslide. Because of their years as loyal Democrats, the Phelpses have even been invited to -- and attended -- both of Clinton's inaugurations. They protested at the second one. But Phelps' campaign against homosexuality actually began in earnest just before the 1992 campaign, when politicians, especially Democrats, began to openly court gay voters.

(When asked if he has ever actually known any homosexuals, Phelps misreads the question. The fixed smile and soft voice end: "Heavens, no! There's nothing like that in my past! My goodness, no!... I didn't even know what a fag was!")

Phelps started locally: In June 1991, he led a picket of Gage Park, a popular Topeka recreation area that, according to Phelps, had been "taken over by sodomites." The pickets multiplied rapidly -- his group began to demonstrate outside local businesses that employed people Phelps suspected were gay and funerals of people Phelps believed had died of AIDS. He then turned his attention to national events: During a 1993 gay rights march on Washington, D.C., Phelps and his group heckled the marchers; ABC's "20/20" captured Phelps lying prostrate on a sidewalk after being maced by an angry demonstrator.

Also during those years came the faxes. Already picketing daily in Topeka, the Phelpses began to shower faxes on the community, targeting business and political leaders they disagreed with. After Topeka councilwoman Beth Mechler publicly doubted Phelps' claims that wild gay sex was occurring in Gage Park, Phelps fired off a fax calling her a "Jezebellian switch-hitting whore."

If Phelps had stopped with mere name-calling, the faxes might have been ignored. But he somehow obtained and disseminated Mechler's confidential blood bank records, revealing that she had hepatitis antibodies; he suggested that they were evidence of a sexually transmitted disease. She denied it, and tried to point out the numerous ways one can contract hepatitis. Still, Mechler lost her next re-election race. Embittered and dispirited, she then left politics for good.

Local district attorney Joan Hamilton, a frequent Phelps foe, faced his wrath after he mysteriously obtained -- and again rapidly disseminated -- a private e-mail Hamilton had sent to her husband that made reference to an apparent "one-night stand." Hamilton, however, has since been re-elected.

The phelpses rarely bother to protest at the city's three gay bars, but their power in Topeka is such that they probably don't need to. Besides, says Phelps, "they're not the decision-makers. They're the dregs."

Club Paradox is Topeka's young and "hip" gay bar. It's in a huge second-floor space just a few blocks from the state capitol, with a bar in the front and a stage and a dance floor in the back. On weeknights the bar caters to a dozen or so regulars, but that number balloons on the weekend, when students from the nearby college towns of Manhattan and Lawrence drive in.

On this Saturday night, the club features a fairly tame revue of female strippers. About 50 local lesbians sit close to the stage; a much smaller group of gay men stands in the back, giggling. At the bar is one aggressively obvious straight man. He's drinking a beer, and sits on a stool with his legs spread apart -- wide apart. Periodically, he waves a bill in the air to attract one of the strippers away from the lesbians near the stage; he tucks the money into one of her straps as she playfully bumps and grinds in the ample space between his knees. The strippers, all local women, are full-figured and good-natured.

Also onstage, performing in drag, is the club's bartender, Jon Johnson. It turns out that Johnson is the person scheduled to "confront" Phelps on the "Jerry Springer Show." He also alerted its producers to the Phelps family, after having been on a previous show titled "She's Obsessed With My Man." Then a witness for his sister's sister-in-law, he now can't remember who exactly was obsessed with whose man. He appeared in drag.

"Once they saw [Phelps] up in Chicago, and after I had been talking him up, they gave me a call," he says. "They said, 'We want you on, too.'"

There was only one catch: They wanted him to appear in drag again. He agreed, and today he has spent the day as Phelps did, getting ready. He has decided he will wear sequined shorts, a black bustier, platform boots, a tear-away wedding dress, and heavy, heavy makeup.

At 23, Johnson is a gay man who struggled through his teen years under Phelps' ever-present condemnation. Johnson looks forward to the confrontation, even if he has to do it in high heels. "Phelps is a menace," he says.

Also at Club Paradox tonight is Sharon York. A 44-year- old caterer and former restaurant manager, she has the voice of a woman who spent years smoking through her shifts. Of all those in Topeka who have had to endure Phelps' gay-baiting, York has survived his longest sustained attack.

In 1992, York was a manager at a Topeka landmark, the Vintage, a restaurant and bar popular with state and local political leaders. Jonathan Phelps, one of Phelps' lawyer sons, had represented her in a small legal case in the mid-'80s, and after the family had all but declared war on gays, York, a lesbian, felt betrayed: "It was like being black and finding out you had been represented by the Ku Klux Klan." The City Council asked community members to form a gay and lesbian task force; by being on it, she hoped to counter the Phelpses' growing impact.

Phelps immediately began to protest outside the Vintage and never let up. He protested outside the restaurant every single night. His catcalls eventually drove York's regular customers elsewhere. Finally, after two years of unyielding harangues, the restaurant's owners fired York in 1994. "It was amicable. They gave me severance pay," says York. "They were like family to me. I understood."

Later that year, York landed a job as a catering specialist in nearby Lawrence. Phelps began protesting there as well. The next year, however, Lawrence passed an ordinance that protected gays and lesbians from workplace discrimination.

York returned to work in Topeka in 1996. She is now the concessions manager for a local racetrack. Occasionally, she also works at events for the Topeka Performing Arts Center, which brings her back in touch with some of the political elite that used to frequent the Vintage. Such reunions are bittersweet. "Since then, a lot of them have become [Phelps'] targets, so they understand now,' she says.

But York doesn't see why the same thing wouldn't happen again. "It really got to the point where nobody stood up for me," she says. "I wish I could say I think things would be different now, but I can't." The city task force York joined never accomplished much, and the City Council has resisted approving an initiative like the one in Lawrence that would protect the civil rights of Topeka's gay and lesbian citizens, including making it illegal for them to be fired because of their sexual orientation.

The cinder-block construction of the city's oldest gay bar, the Classics, along with its low-slung roof, one small window, and -- perhaps most important -- its lack of a sign, give it the deliberately nondescript look typical of a Midwestern gay bar. It sits right next to the county prison. Inside it's warm, with twinkly Christmas lights and the familiar conversations of a neighborhood bar. But no one is willing to talk about Fred Phelps on the record. Says one middle-age professional, "I hate him, but he scares me."

Whether Westboro Baptist is a church or an official family get-together is a question frequently asked by Phelps' critics. The IRS considers it a church, though, and that qualifies Westboro for tax breaks on "church activities," including the $250,000 the family spends traveling to protests each year. The large brood has grown and married and includes 45 grandchildren; they fill the pews during Westboro's single Sunday service. With one exception, everyone attending the service on this Sunday in December is a relative, either by blood or through marriage.

Not all of the Phelps children have remained loyal to the family. A few years ago, two of his sons told a Topeka reporter that Phelps regularly, and viciously, beat his children with a wooden mattock handle. The brothers, Mark, 44, and Nathan, 40, both now live in Southern California, where Mark owns a small copying business. Today, they stand by their story.

Another sibling, Dortha Bird, 34, has remained in Topeka, where she works as a lawyer. She looks like her sisters: They share a broad, round face and pale eyes. There's one notable difference: her short hair. Her sisters wear theirs long, nearly waist-length.

Dortha left the family in June 1990, changed her last name to Bird to distance herself from it, and quietly tried to live her life. She married and had a daughter, and recently, she self-published a small booklet, Voice of Wild Bird, whose New Age, spiritual musings would surely alarm her father. She says she's letting the Topeka AIDS Project sell the book as a fund- raising item.

She generally shuns reporters' queries. "The reason I've never spoken of it? Fear," she says. But as the years have passed, her fear has subsided. Today, she's just angry.

"Growing up, it was chaos. It was intense and scary. There was a blowup at least once a week," she says. She speaks quietly, with calm intensity. She says she was never beaten with the mattock handle as, she attests, her brothers were. She doesn't flinch or pause when she says that he used a leather shaving strap on the girls. "He would do it in rounds. You'd think he would be finished, then he would get his anger up and do it again. God, that thing stung. You can't imagine. They left welts that looked hollow inside, like fat little horseshoes."

Still, she claims she got off easy, learning early to find ways to avoid her father's anger, and she says the girls had it better than the boys: "He never coldcocked us."

The siblings who are still close to the family deny abuse ever happened. Shirley, 41 and expecting her tenth child, says, "I would describe it as, We got spanked as kids." Her sister Rachel, 33, has the same response: "Hit? No. Spanked? Yes." When asked about her brothers' allegations that their father beat them with a mattock handle, Rachel replies, "I know that the Bible speaks of a rod. If he was using a rod, then that would be the basis for it." Phelps declined to comment on these allegations. But in 1994, he told the Topeka Capitol Journal, "There's not a shred of truth" to his sons' stories.

In the years since she left, Bird has spoken to her family on only a handful of occasions. She says when she left, she knew there would be no coming back. Her father had always made it clear: "You're either with us or against us."

Isn't it beautiful!" Fred Phelps exclaims. The "Jerry Springer Show" has just called up to cancel his appearance. He forces a broad smile, but his voice has the false ring of a carnival barker's.

"He can't take it," Phelps says. "It shows they're scared of this message."

Phelps' fax machines begin to whir with his latest missive: "Jerry Springer, King of Controversy, Folds Under Fag Pressure." Actually, a Springer spokeswoman says they canceled the show after the Phelpses proved too demanding.

What does it mean for Fred Phelps when Jerry Springer, king of controversy, won't put him on his show? Could it mean that Phelps is, as he's insisting now, just too "hot" for the show? Or could it be that Phelps' shtick hit a peak at the Shepard funeral only to become tired three months later? Just a few weeks after Springer cancels, Phelps travels to Sacramento, California, to protest another lesbian wedding. This time, the Phelpes, and a dozen others are met by a crowd of nearly 1,000 who turn out in part to squelch Phelps' message. Worse than the no-show in Nashville, Phelps now mobilizes the masses in solidarity against him.

Ultimately, what does sucess mean for Fred Phelps? He manages perhaps the ultimate spin. "You understand this is a win-win situation for me. If the fags win, and the country accepts them, then fine. Then they win. But it's the end -- and by this, he means, the end. The Bible, he says, makes clear that there will not be room for everyone, but there will be room for him. "Either way, you see, the world will be over, but I win."



 

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Fred W. and Margie M. Phelps, Sr. Westboro Baptist Church 3701 S.W. 12th Street Topeka, Kansas 66604 phone: 785-273-0325 and 785-273-0338 fax: 785-273-9228 Karl and Deborah Kay Hockenbarger James Hockenbarger/Jennifer Hockenbarger 1929 S.W. Lane Topeka, Kansas 66604 home: (913) 233-1848 K-K-Karl’s work: 785-296-3959 Fred W. Phelps. Jr. and Betty Phelps 3600 S. W. Holly Lane Topeka, Kansas 66604 home: 785-272-4135 Jr.’s work: 785-296-3195 Margie J. Phelps 3734 S.W. 12th Topeka, Kansas 66604 home: 785-273-7380 work: 785-296-3317 Ben Phelps 3632 S.W. Churchill Topeka, Kansas 66604 home: 785-233-4162 Rebekah Phelps-Davis and Chris Davis-Phelps 1216 S.W. Cambridge Topeka, Kansas 66604 home: 785-272-7741 Shirley Phelps-Roper and Brent Roper-Phelps Sam Phelps-Roper 3640 S.W. Churchill Topeka, Kansas 66604 home: 785-273-1445/273-0277/272-1619 Shirley’s work: 785-233-4162 Brent’s work (Foot Locker) 785-273-0068 Jonathan and Paulette Phelps 840 S.W. Watson Topeka, Kansas 66606 Jonathan’s work: 785-233-4162 Elizabeth Phelps 2001 S.W. 2nd Street Topeka, Kansas 66606 home: 785-234-9694 work: 785-233-0822 Abigail Phelps 3636 S.W. Churchill Topeka, Kansas 66604 785-273-7262 work: 785-296-7709 Charles W. and Mary Hockenbarger 711 N.W. Page Topeka, Kansas 66617 home: 785- 246-1567 Rachel Phelps Hockenbarger and Charles F. Hockenbarger 1284 S.W. Hillsdale Topeka, Kansas 66604 home: 785-271-1619 Tim and LeAnn Phelps 3743 S.W. 12th Street Topeka, Kansas 66604 home: 785-273-4780 Tim’s work: 785-291-5100 Leann’s work: phone: 785-233-4162 Theresa Davis 3632 S.W. 12th Street Topeka, Kansas 66604 work: 785-291-700?
Posted by:billJune 4, 2007 10:07:43 AMRespond ^
git some balls and quit hiding behind your signs, f@g..
Posted by:chrisJuly 12, 2007 2:54:38 PMRespond ^
Well, I'm gay and I'm a Christian. I have never seen so much hate eminate from a man that says he speaks for the God of Love. I will say this...I am also celibate because of my love for my God. I think the Rev. is very short sighted and needs to understand...the Bible never condemns a person for being gay or lesbian...simply says to stay on the right path and like all tempting things sex is the worst to try and avoid. This however simply means...if you love God, you will obey his word...and with that your salvation is assured...unless the Rev. in his wisdom would claim God to be a liar!
Posted by:Chris WiegandAugust 10, 2007 5:29:43 PMRespond ^
All I can say for this men! God Bless him and forgive him!
Posted by:J. RicoAugust 23, 2007 9:36:58 AMRespond ^
This guy (Phelps) is completely insane, and I feel there is no hope for that guy-both now and at the 'end'. I have several friends who are bi-sexual, and of course I would feel utmost anger if any of them were targeted by Phelps and his group of maniacs.
Posted by:Lee TompsonAugust 28, 2007 2:58:21 PMRespond ^
It is sad to think of all the hatred that must have been directed at this poor mortal man from his infancy to be so blinded by such a deep and clustered hatred toward everyone else. He and most of his family have been cheated out of the ability to find joy and happiness in seeing each of their equal mortals as individuals and learning from and finding pleasure in their differences. How does he and his family find peace, comfort and joy in all of the beauty that surrounds us with only hatred as their focus? I would ask them to go outside after a rainstorm, smell the flowers, listen to the songs of nature, and see the beauty in the different colors in the rainbow and then understand that even though there was an angry sound of thunder during the short storm, the beauty and joy is what is there before and after, so it is the stongest, the angry thunder is only a little piece of what we were meant to experience in life. Stop being part of the smallest part of life, open your minds and try allowing yourself to experience joy, beauty, happiness, compassion,and the wonder of all of our differences and similarities as mere mortals. May you empty the anger out of your heart and find peace and joy in all the wonderful things that have been given to all of us.
Posted by:Dal LaySeptember 28, 2007 4:29:13 PMRespond ^
THERE ARE BIGGER THINGS GOING ON IN THIS WORLD..YOU COULD TRY AND MAKE A CHANGE THERE.BUT I THINK YOU ARE FUC&ING GAY AND YOU ARE PROTESTING AND CARRYING ON...SO NOBODY FINDS YOU OUT. GET A LIFE OLD MAN-YOU LOOK LIKE YOU WILL DIE SOON-AND GUESS WHAT --YOU WILL BE GOING TO HELL.AND WHEN YOU ARE GONE I BET ONE OF YOUR KIDS WILL FINALLY FEEL FREE TO COME OUT--I HOPE YOU TOSS AND TURN IN YOUR GRAVE KNOWING THAT ONE OF YOUR SONS IS HAVING A GREAT SEX LIFE, GETTING IT IN HIS @SS.
Posted by:TRACIOctober 4, 2007 4:03:59 PMRespond ^
I think this guy is so sick. Look, I'm for freadom of speach, but protesting at peoples funrals, that should be a crime (and now it is thank God). I don't think he's really doing anything for his cause by using words like "fag" and "dyke" anyway, so I think he should just keep on going. I'm a Canadian "dyke" and he probably hates me more than anything, but I pray for him. I hope he can stop being so homophobic before he dies and goes to hell.
Posted by:errrrrm, no comentOctober 15, 2007 1:16:44 PMRespond ^
Thank you so much for posting these numbers on line. Everyone please call and let them know how glad we are as americans that justice was served today.
Posted by:BrianOctober 31, 2007 5:07:51 PMRespond ^
[deleted] Fred Phelps and his piece of [deleted] church! Fred Phelps can suck a big dick!!
Posted by:bradOctober 31, 2007 6:26:49 PMRespond ^
The guy is definitely a nut case, but I don't see that some of the posts here are any different than his hate speech. Hate is hate, no matter who the target is. I hold the man in contempt but refuse to wallow in the mire with him.
Posted by:bruceOctober 31, 2007 9:30:52 PMRespond ^
real christians pray for the lost and there enemeys!
Posted by:walker webberNovember 1, 2007 6:45:33 AMRespond ^
real christians pray for the lost and there familys.
Posted by:walker webberNovember 1, 2007 6:47:58 AMRespond ^
Ignore them. They're nothing but pathological attention seekers. Let the legal system break them financially, just as it did the KKK. End of story.
Posted by:Pastor JenniferNovember 1, 2007 9:10:19 AMRespond ^
The Rev Phelps looks just like a guy I worked with in Texas, is the same age and the same last name, he was fired from the company we worked for because he was in jail after being caught in a GAY BAR with a undercover male hooker.
Posted by:TommyNovember 1, 2007 1:31:27 PMRespond ^
One's freedom ends where another's freedom begins. I'd vote for medicating Mr. Phelps to help him deal with all that rage. His disability shouldn't be our society's liability.
Posted by:PatienceNovember 2, 2007 8:08:52 AMRespond ^
This sad family is going to be in for a big surprise on judgement day
Posted by:PamNovember 2, 2007 11:58:56 AMRespond ^
Perhaps Fred Phelps is a closet fag--I mean a closet gay--himself and is afraid to deal with that part of his personality.
Posted by:Daniel RosenthalNovember 5, 2007 7:08:20 PMRespond ^
I'm surprised that, in spite of the fact that he has angered countless people, no one has attempted to assassinate this guy. Phelps represents one of the many reasons I am an atheist.
Posted by:PostalNovember 7, 2007 9:24:26 PMRespond ^
All these people want are attention. They have made a lifestyle out of it. They will collapse from within one day.
Posted by:D StressnerNovember 12, 2007 12:03:12 AMRespond ^
You are very right. This man is no joke. It is people like this that dominate in the twilight. As darkness falls, they shine as a false light. As our world resources are stretched further, the blamers will be seen as prophets, not the hate mongers they are.It grieves me to see such as this hold such sway in God's name. He knows nothing of love, only fear, his and the fear he can engender in others. God is love. Love does not "win" over others. Love helps, encourages. It does not hate.
Posted by:CaramonNovember 13, 2007 1:22:01 PMRespond ^
ugh phelps makes me ill.. I just saw something on t.v. before about this guy he even has his grandkids spouting this crap.. Good on the sibling that escaped!
Posted by:oliverNovember 15, 2007 4:14:21 AMRespond ^
i dislike the phelps clam very much and im trying to find out what i can do to help rid our country of this disgusting family (and i use the word family litely )they are a bunch of imbred hipocrites. so if anyone can point me in the right direction please email me with any information you have on how i can make there life a living hell.please mail to eimajs1964@yahoo.com please put "phelps info" in the topic title so i know what its about thank you for you time jamie s. kramer
Posted by:jamie s. kramerNovember 29, 2007 6:38:10 AMRespond ^
Phelps is a [deleted]ing [deleted]. i live an hour away from Topeka, KS. I live in manhattan, ks and im getting sick and tired of people thinking that being gay is wrong. my uncle is gay and i dont care. Phelps needs to die. today i went to topeka with my mom and on the corner of 17th and Washburn St. i say posters and people holding them up that said things about "[deleted]" and "God hates you and america" things like that. and they say we're going to hell... no no no, there going to hell, bcuz i saw kids that were WAY younger than me holding up those signs. now thats wrong.. im only a teenager and i support gay rights. im not gay but i support it. I think its just wrong and disgusting for all of this bcuz someone is gay, SO WHAT?!?! Are they bothering you I DONT THINK SO. in sociology class we were talking about this and watched a video and there was this theory that everyone has a little gay in them, bcuz they had 2 groups and seperated them from homophobics to non-homophobics and they told you to put a think around the penis and had them watch a gay video and it turned some of them on a bit (this was on the video. lol). i think the people who have a problem with it need therapy and need to get their heads out of their asses bcuz whoever is gay isnt going to change. and the shouldnt have too either.
Posted by:dallasNovember 29, 2007 5:47:10 PMRespond ^
Brent Phelps is the Director of Human Resources at the National Association of Insurance Commissioners. www.naic.org. How can such a hater be allowed to work for a public entity that is supposed to protect consumers??
Posted by:DavidDecember 8, 2007 4:09:08 AMRespond ^
Fred Phelps is more than just a hate monger. He is a sick cult leader and an abuser. I have been watching a new anti-Fred Phelps site called www.allamericandouchebag.com . These folks seem to be gearing up to take very strong stand against Fred Phelps and Westboro Baptist Church. Thought you may like to know.
Posted by:BloodhoundDecember 10, 2007 12:13:51 PMRespond ^
GOD LOVES EVERYONE RALLY “GOD LOVES GAYS” When: Saturday, December 15, 2007, at HIGH NOON (12:00pm) Where: Topeka, Kansas (21st and Wanamaker) Fred Phelps and his church's message of hate have stained many people's view of Christianity - and, sadly, driven many away from church. Olathe Life Fellowship (an Emergent Evangelical church) is working hard to communicate the true message of Jesus… that of LOVE. Join Pastor Timmy Gibson and hundreds of others at high noon, 12:00 p.m., Saturday, December 15, for a peaceful demonstration directly opposing the Phelps message of hate. We invite EVERYONE to join us in this effort to communicate God’s true message of love, forgiveness and acceptance. There are four types of signs we are going to display; “God Loves Gays”, “God Loves Everyone”, “No More Hate”, and “9-11 Broke God’s Heart”. It’s B.Y.O.S. (Bring your own sign). Contact: Michele Huff Phone: (913) 390-1200 E-mail: info@olathelifefellowship.org Web site: www.olatheLifeFelloswhip.org (*watch Timmy’s “God Loves Gays” sermon) Pastor’s Blog: www.timmygibson.com (*Read Timmy’s “God Loves Gays” blog entry) My Space: www.myspace.com/olathelifefellowship (*watch clip of last God Loves rally) Your browser may not support display of this image.
Posted by:Olathe Life FellowshipDecember 12, 2007 4:30:00 PMRespond ^
"Growing up, it was chaos. It was intense and scary. There was a blowup at least once a week" in Jerry Springer's closests. I cannot imagine any time or any reason why Jesus would disown individuals loving one another. So to boycott (and harrass, intervere, and basciall behave like someone who should have their asses alspped in a Baptist church plenty of times so that they might learn a wanring and evolve from the unfortunate lack of education from whence they came, they would see intelligent questions being beraded by slavery methods. I am certain God has a point for me, whever the world ends. I think he will look at what he gave us as nature--hetero and homosexuality--and ee how we have faired with it. I know that my homosexuality is very tight with Christ, to the exent that I know when a false prophet is in my midst when they start sputing forth damning comments that indicate they wish I were in hell. This in itself is the case and point of how God is in our lives. If my relationship has him fulfilling myself and helping others, I am close to God and Jesus. If anyone elses's elationship is that they need to know whom God hates in order to define themselves, then this is overwhelmingly pathetic. Not only spritually, but as a basis for existing as a human. You don't need to find fault in others to make meaning of your own life. If ou do, the do it with God. Insasmuch as same-sex relationships are supposed to be forbidden by the bible, so are women and black people barred from reading the bible. Also, I was taugh that if I prayed for something and prayed arduously, bringing in others to help me, I would find the solution Jesus wanted. I waited and waited to be straight, and then I had Jesus come to me and say that I was born gay and was on this earth to be gay and to help gay people. This is something I am much more sure of than the idea that Jesus showed uup to tell Pat Robertson to move his stock options into a secret trust. Similarly, Jesus spoke to me to say that I should spread love and joy and his word, and that he NEVER made use of people to act on hate, retaliation, superiority, or as though they knew something I did not. For this, I am grateful to be an out and gay Christian!!!!
Posted by:JimDecember 21, 2007 3:16:43 AMRespond ^
I bet Jim Jones was your idol!!!! Am I right? You are the only reason to believe in Lucifer. at least you have a few smart children. Maybe those are the ones not inbred? you are all pathetic sinners!!
Posted by:jdcardiac2January 23, 2008 10:51:05 PMRespond ^
I am talking to the pathetic Phelps Cult!!!!! They are sociopaths!!!!
Posted by:jdcardiac2@aol.comJanuary 23, 2008 11:03:56 PMRespond ^
When Phelps is assasinatted the world will be a better place. God hates Phelps and so do the people of god…Burn in hell.
Posted by:JoeJanuary 25, 2008 9:24:00 AMRespond ^
erm...has nobody just raised a gang and went and put him in a wheel chair or 6 feet under ?
Posted by:IrelandJanuary 25, 2008 4:32:37 PMRespond ^
I guess you also hate apostles to,Fred?You hate just about everything else.Fred,what do you believe about the five-fold ministry? I guess you also believe they are not in existance today?
Posted by:Apostle William E.DutcherJanuary 26, 2008 11:20:58 AMRespond ^
This Christian hate merchant is the most obvious example of a self hating closeted gay I have ever seen- His hatred of gays is just an outward expression of his own self hatred- And his followers consist of similar closet cases, the mentally ill and just all around ass***es...
Posted by:Charles MaddcockJanuary 26, 2008 3:12:33 PMRespond ^
One thing (among many) that disturbs me about religious loons like this is that they reduce sex to a biological function- Sex as an expression of love is alien to Phelps and his ilk- Can these people love anyone? I think Phelps and his followers were either victims of severe emotional abuse as children, or have serious mental illness, because the level of hate spewed by his chuch- is literally insane. I hope social services in Kansas takes a serious look at what emotional abuse the children of these church members are subjected to... So since gays can't reproduce, then Phelp's ilk think gays are invalid as individuals. I guess Phelps is ignorants that homosexulaity has been observed throughout the animal kingdom- from whales to elephants to humans- It's in nature, which means it is natural. But religious nuts who argue the only purpose for sex is to procreate essntially imply straight couples who choose not to have kids, or don't want them, shouldn't be having sex- and furthermore, they seem to regards women as little more than breeding stock, who should have no control over their own bodies. The religious right in this country is sickening.
Posted by:Charles MaddcockJanuary 26, 2008 3:24:31 PMRespond ^
i think u made an awesome point, and it was cool that u shared that u are both gay and a christian, and that all sin is the same, we just have to obey and not give into temptations. I really think that the best thing to do is a peaceful prayer seige outside their church.
Posted by:daniFebruary 1, 2008 12:05:28 AMRespond ^
I say we send this up to no good old fart over to iraq. if god hates [deleted] and america...especially the soldiers, send him somewhere where anyone who isnt accepted is killed. i give him less than a week. that pathetic little man will probably still ramble on even as hes burning in the pits of hell.
Posted by:Zac GreenFebruary 1, 2008 1:30:48 PMRespond ^
What can you say about Fred Phelp's.?? As a Christian, I think God will deal with him as he sees fit and Fred will get what's coming to him. As a human being, I think he should be sent to get his "virgins" early.
Posted by:Tim VanceFebruary 5, 2008 11:59:21 AMRespond ^
Hilarious about the numbers, phelps needs one thing. A bullet.
Posted by:LizFebruary 5, 2008 1:57:16 PMRespond ^
I saw a website that summs up where these people are going,to hell! I am going to buy them a ticket to hell and have it sent to Rev. Fred Phelps.I saw someone send one to the Berkely City Council on the internet search; Berkeley City Council Receives Tickets to Hell.
Posted by:JimFebruary 12, 2008 8:25:10 PMRespond ^
i hope i see this guy in the street one day....im not gay and dont necessarily support gay marriage but this is ridiculous...gays are people too, but if i ever see him in public i will undoubtedly knock his head off
Posted by:shaneFebruary 16, 2008 12:03:25 PMRespond ^
This Fred is insane . I am not suipers that the phepls are the most hated family in American
Posted by:melFebruary 20, 2008 7:32:20 PMRespond ^
Just a suggestion: (Not being a christian myself, perhaps this a bit strange, but....) couldn't 'we', the counter protesters, go with a bit of a different agenda? Perhaps instead of screaming anit-Phelps slurs, perhaps someone could organize a chorus effect, and lead the protesters in christian hymns (SP?), recognizable songs that the population at large, at least the christian population, would recognize? perhaps that would get some press that would make the u.s. / world population see 'us' as people just like them, with faith, ......... (i am in no way suggesting that 'we', the gay population, are all christians. it just seems like most of the hateful energy publicized in the u.s. comes from either christian fundamentalists, or cruel idiots.) i was once told by a lesbian comedian that was on an olivia cruise: she started singing the songs along with the anti-gay protesters at one of the ports. several other lesbians joined in, and she said that the people closest to them didn't know how to respond. they couldn't exactly interrupt their cherished songs.... and saw that the 'evil lesbians' knew the same songs. i think you get the idea after this diatribe. just a thought.

kelly bartels, chicagoland
Posted by:Kelly BartelsMarch 1, 2008 10:38:45 AMRespond ^
You have no right to put down other people and their beliefs. If you can believe what you want and do what you do then why can't others? You suck.
Posted by:anonymousMarch 4, 2008 7:34:13 AMRespond ^
mr phelps paid my brother ten yrs ago to have sex with him behind the burger king in topeka.
Posted by:kennethadamsMarch 17, 2008 1:15:43 AMRespond ^
god bless u bill.
Posted by:jeffersonMarch 17, 2008 1:16:38 AMRespond ^
People who hate others generally hate themselves. Psychologists call it projection. It's driven by the dual purpose of getting rid of their internal self hatred and putting the blame on others.

One of Phelps kids lives in Canada and says that Phelps was beaten by his father with an ax handle. The other reasonable possibility is that he is gay himself, hates himself, and you can see how this all fits into place.

I don't know about judgement day for this creep, but I would be glad to buy him an asbestos suit, so his agony would be prolonged. And I would celebrate if one of those motorcycle groups who come to protect the families of our fallen soldiers at their funerals took some direct action to solve this problem of our society.

And I've got to thank Fred Phelps - his insanity at Matthew Sheppards funeral is what got me into the gay equality business.

Or maybe another solution - will someone pack this nut case into a crate along with a bunch of bibles and ship him air freight to Mecca. I think the people there would know what to do with him. Allah Ahkbar! He deserves it, and for him all humanity should go out the window temporarily.
Posted by:SteveMD2March 17, 2008 9:42:03 PMRespond ^
yes, put him six feet under, in a box, with a vent tube and air supply, and a food tube. Leave him alone in his own filth, his own hate, and just record his screaming so we can laugh back at him via a sound tube he can't remove
Posted by:sharon666March 17, 2008 9:48:14 PMRespond ^
re Phelps being beaten by his dad, I wanted to say that perhaps he is torn between natural love of a parent, and hatred of a vicious parents. Gays, our soldiers families, etc are just the victims.
Posted by:SteveMD2March 17, 2008 9:51:01 PMRespond ^
you can contribute to some gay equality group, bringing the message that God loves all (except Phelps I am sure).
Posted by:SteveMD2March 17, 2008 9:52:21 PMRespond ^
naw, send him to Mecca in a box with a bunch of bibles. Make sure his punishment under Islam is secretly filmed so it can be put on youTube.
Posted by:SteveMD2March 17, 2008 9:53:46 PMRespond ^
Go Phelps
Posted by:no commentApril 1, 2008 9:09:28 PMRespond ^
This has got to be the sickest thread I've ever viewed. You all act like you know so much about WBC that you can make assumptions that they are all wrong. Try speaking to a few of them. They were respectful and polite with me although honest and sincere. I told them I served in the military and Shirley simply asked me a few questions regarding my experience and what I went through. She did tell me about this world being doomed and turning away from God and later told me that if I feel led to visit their church than to don't hesitate. I look forward to speaking to other members of their church in the near future. As with anyone else I remember what was told to me in previous confersations and contradictions are a quick way of turning me off. As with almost every other church I set foot in, I need to be cautious and expect the worst.
Posted by:CapernaumApril 3, 2008 11:17:18 AMRespond ^
I am 100% AGAINST Fred Phelps. Although I am a Catholic and I tend to stick to traditional ways, I cannot stand what this man does. It makes me sick. Gay people have just as right as any to be happy.
Posted by:AlexandraApril 10, 2008 11:24:02 AMRespond ^
"Rev" Fred Phelps is a fool. He claims to hate America and has made a career out of protesting everything that America stands for but hides behind constitutional rights afforded him as an American citizen.He is a media whore taking every opertunity to spout his hate crimes to the press and argue with anyone who tries to exercise their own right to free speech. He protests the funerals of fallen service men and women because they died fighting for the same country that protects his rights to bark out his garbage. My question is ,Why is he allowed to live in the USA? He clearly hates the place and everyone in it.America may not be a perfect place but it seems to me that if he hates it so much ,he and his band of idiots should leave it. I am a proud Canadian and I know that if he was here in the Great white north....we would stick him and his followers on an ice flow and shove them out to sea.
Posted by:AlexApril 29, 2008 7:07:39 AMRespond ^
well I deff. hate fred and so does my gf we both think hes Americas worse enemy and when he dies we will be at his funeral with sighs saying thank god fred phelps is dead and so on so if anyone wants to join feel free I no many people will be there. Me and my gf have both become active in the GLBT community in SC considering we are lesbians one of our goals is to also get the monument of Matthew Shepard taken down that fred put up in a park.
Posted by:sam.KMay 8, 2008 5:08:29 AMRespond ^
the person who put go phelps what u 2 [deleted] to put ur name?
Posted by:Sam.KMay 8, 2008 5:11:51 AMRespond ^
please pray for fred and his family. i know God loves them inspite of the fact that he is giving Him a bad name.
Posted by:emilyMay 16, 2008 8:05:41 AMRespond ^
Westboro Baptist Church is a hate group.
They hate gays and judge people.
The Bible says not to judge, but these idiots from WBC do so anyway.
They go to the funerals of soldiers and hold up stupid signs that say "Thank God for 9/11", and "God hates [deleted]."
WBC forgot that God so loved the world, that he sent his son here so that we can be forgiven for our sins.
God loves us.
God does not hate us.
God loves America.
God loves all countries.
WBC says that there is no hope for us.
God gives us hope.
Westboro Baptist Church is the Devil's whore.
I laugh at them.

George Vreeland Hill
Posted by:George Vreeland HillMay 19, 2008 2:05:28 AMRespond ^
Westboro Baptist Church is a hate group.
They hate gays and judge people.
The Bible says not to judge, but these idiots from WBC do so anyway.
They go to the funerals of soldiers and hold up stupid signs that say "Thank God for 9/11", and "God hates [deleted]."
WBC forgot that God so loved the world, that he sent his son here so that we can be forgiven for our sins.
God loves us.
God does not hate us.
God loves America.
God loves all countries.
WBC says that there is no hope for us.
God gives us hope.
Westboro Baptist Church is the Devil's whore.
I laugh at them.

George Vreeland Hill
Posted by:George Vreeland HillMay 19, 2008 2:09:54 AMRespond ^
I hope that everyone who sees this man and sees his daughter realizes that he is the one doomed to hell because GOD LOVES EVERYONE and if he didnt he wouldn't have given his only son to die for EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by:JennaMay 23, 2008 2:08:01 PMRespond ^
THIS MAN IS NOT A MAN. HE SAYS HE IS DOING THIS IN GOD NAME IN THE BIBBLE IT SAYS GOD LOVE EVERYONE NO MATTER WAT SINS WE COMMET THAT IS Y JESUSE DIED FOR US GOD KNW WE WIL SIN GOD STILL LOVE US. AND FOR THIS MAN TO HATE AND BE SO VENDICTIVE TO HUMANS THAT HAVE DONE NOTHING TO HIM FIRST OF GOD DID NOT SET FOR US TO SUFFER GOD DOSE THING BECUASE HE LOVES US AND FOR THIS THING TO BLAIM PEOPLE FOR WAT HAPPEND IS STUPIED 9/11 HAPPEND BECAUSE PEOPLE IN OTHER [deleted]RYS DISPISED US THEY R CALLED TARARIS SRY FOR MY SPELLING IM TYPING IN A HURRY. BUT THINGS HAPPEN FOR A RESON NOT ALWAYS A PUNISHMENT THIS MAN IS DISCUSTING AND DESURVES TO SUFFER AS HE MADE OTHERS GOD WILL SHOW HIM WAT LOVE REALY IS IT PEOPLE LIKE THIS THAT MAKE GOD LOOK LIKE THIS MEAN THING BUT THE TRUTH IS GOD LOVE US ALL NO MATTER OUR SINS OR OR MISTAKES OR FAILT IM GAY AND IM PROUD AS HELL OF IT AND IM NOT THE TYPE OF PERSON TO SIT THERE AND LET A MAN LIKE THIS DO THIS I WILL FIGHT BUT I WILL FIGHT FOR LOVE AND PEASE NO HATE THIS GUY IS NO MAN HE IS NOT HUMMAN BECAUSE TO BE HUMMAN IS TO HAVE A HEART AND HE DOSE NOT... IF U WOULD LIKE TO HELP IN THIS FIGHT PLEASE EMAIL ME AT amandadurr@yahoo.com please
Posted by:DEEDAMay 28, 2008 6:57:12 AMRespond ^
Fred Phelps does not deserve any love from God at all. He's a sick minded, self-centred, dillusional, senile man. He needs to get laid or somethine
Posted by:Emma-Lee HughesAugust 3, 2008 10:24:17 PMRespond ^
Phelps is missing a few screws I think. He just likes being in control of a cruel colt. I have no gay friends but I have no problem with them. I think Phelp is probably a closet homosexual and I'd Like him to slag off IRELAND to my face!!! If he does leave the states ill be waiting at the airport to make sure he doesn't get off here. Its fools like him that make people lose faith in god.
Posted by:fionnAugust 7, 2008 7:32:35 AMRespond ^
[Title] War

War has been at the beginning of time,
I don’t want war my brother of mine.

As for Cain and Abel, war has that label.

You ought to feel dumb not having love,
it says turn the other cheek, not put on the gloves.

Can’t you see what we are doing?
We even read our destiny we can see brewing.

Can’t you see, even if you’re over sea, war is wrong for you brother and me.
Wars you can’t win and as for Cain and Abel that’s when wars begin.

Benny Diaz 1/4/04
Posted by:Benny DiazAugust 28, 2008 11:03:30 PMRespond ^
To Sam.k

[Title] War

War has been at the beginning of time,
I don’t want war my brother of mine.

As for Cain and Abel, war has that label.

You ought to feel dumb not having love,
it says turn the other cheek, not put on the gloves.

Can’t you see what we are doing?
We even read our destiny we can see brewing.

Can’t you see, even if you’re over sea, war is wrong for you brother and me.
Wars you can’t win and as for Cain and Abel that’s when wars begin.

Benny Diaz 1/4/04
Posted by:Benny Diaz August 28, 2008 11:09:20 PMRespond ^
Dear George Vreeland Hill,

[Title] War

War has been at the beginning of time,
I don’t want war my brother of mine.

As for Cain and Abel, war has that label.

You ought to feel dumb not having love,
it says turn the other cheek, not put on the gloves.

Can’t you see what we are doing?
We even read our destiny we can see brewing.

Can’t you see, even if you’re over sea, war is wrong for you brother and me.
Wars you can’t win and as for Cain and Abel that’s when wars begin.

Benny Diaz 1/4/04
Posted by:Benny DiazAugust 28, 2008 11:15:09 PMRespond ^
Dear Emma-Lee Hughes

Dear, Family

Life pressures you to separate the boy from the man, the girl from the woman. When you need that boy or girl to be happy. That creative view sees you through the crashing blow, that almost done you in. Born to smile, for we the prince or princes in the universe same as you. Wondering what God would do, so I can fill them shoes. My muscles raw, my shield at it’s peak. Main muscle my brain keeping me from going insane. The boy back into the man or girl back into the woman, not taking pressure for an answer. Generosity is not a given but earned. Feels like magic, it is because you know the secret. From a thunder voice of the many that left their words. When in the universe it’s hugs and kisses? Time to stop the history clock from going around. Always think to the fundamental of everything you are about to do. Makes it obvious, is this the universe of hugs and kisses? How is generosity earned? How long will it take you to figure that out? It will take the control that is what is within your soul, look in the mirror, that is the control to only speak of. Balance the scale be on the level. To have compassion, you also have to earn it.

You have to love to love others, you have to have a good heart to stop the history clock from turning. You have already been given a gift it is up to you to use it. Iron grip reality change the future don’t live in history cycle. You then can see the true projection, nothing, I mean there is nothing to die for. When one chooses to die that is their projection what they truly needed or wanted. When one says love is not for me that is their projection. There will always be that black and white, still that is nothing to die for but you will. When I say die, it is not like the die we would think, there are lots of ways to die.

That may not seem fair, love is always fair. A bad choice is deceptive, a wrong choice is a mistake, the right choice is love, think of all them projections. As we all hold the power of choice as well as love. It’s like the comparison, why have a boat when it can’t float on water? Why do you need a boat when you can walk on water? What is inside of me is also inside of you. What is projection? The answer is, it is you. Now you know the mind readers secret.

Remember being a child you knew things still you where unsure of. You seek for answers, you had good and bad times, you where innocent, and integrated yourself with your surroundings. Most of all you wanted love and needed to have fun. As you depended and some didn’t have that luxury, therefore, they needed the secret to life more than ever. To not be in the middle of life and fall into the bad projection. Not be the survival of the fittest but to cradle the weak. With pure love and honesty with an iron grip creating for yourself and others.

As I ask this question I would like you to be totally honest with yourself. Is money a need or a want? As a worker need tools to get the job done, we can see deeper in others projection of money and if it’s a need to them or a want. By now you can see the history clock still turning. We are at War now what does that tell you, that we will be at War again. Now who is lying? You haves the power to stop the history clock. We all have the gift, we all know the secret. To be honest here, was it us or the government that controls, causing all this War business?

When government’s business... should be creating. Are our elderly safe and taken care of? Are our childrens education a money problem... can you see the projection yet? Who wants true freedom? Who knows what true freedom is? I can tell you this freedom is not working for a 4 year to 8 year term then always having a paycheck for the rest of your life. When the rest of us just sit back and do nothing about the governments controlling projection. How could a person create the highest value of everyone needs are taken care of? How could one know the ones that need help? I guess the projection is clear because we are by no means that evolved.

A criminal goes to jail that is all, a person goes to war that is all. When it’s all over and the time is spent the criminal and the vet are treated the same. The criminal or the vet could earn a noble prize but we still only see with our eyes. There will be the hungry and the homeless. There will be the greedy and the day dreamer and there will be many. True you will always have the very few noble prize winners. Our history is the fact holder to this fact as the history clock turns as so does the world. How could one snowball you switching truths being the second hand on the history clock?

The Mirror

The mirror tells, projects you know colors and shades. Creative view this search for pure security. Behaving good bright like a star, be sure searching security. Passing away the shade of gray, metaphor way our survival, security. The shade of gray it is in the middle, it is mental.

A search for pure security. Please tell me why red rose for love? My eyes, sun rise in search for pure security. Black and white surround the gray. The battles inside of your head, in need for pure security. As we rise out of the ghetto as creators that’s who we are. Might of lived in but wasn’t part of the ghetto. We protected our self from the anticivilization and the government.

With my baby steps my parents drilled in my mind and heart love, honesty to create values. They knew what I was going to have to go through. It might seem cruel my sentence to grow in the ghetto of the anticivilization and cheating government. As I moved out of my mothers house she reminded me to stay in my baby steps and be a man. Always for me to remember, I will always be her little baby. In my journey that made me think about raising a baby, here now is my metaphor in our God his creation his journey he is raising us his baby.

I meet a woman made my own family with my queen. As the years went by my family grew, I struggled to take care of my babies. I don’t have time to waste and to repeat to my babies what my parents taught me. At times it’s awesome experience but sometimes it’s terrifying. Bluntly I had and did take control of myself. To be the mentor to my children like my parents where to me. Still not all my babies did not arise. I could be a freak of nature cause I can’t reach the knife in my back. I could only imagine how our mentor feels of some of the writings like me we have read. My son was raised by his mother. It wasn’t till he was almost grew that I was finally able to win custody. I’m strict and firm and the wife asked why am I so mean, then she says never mind she sees all the love in my eyes.



Here is your disclaimer no more invisible but invincible. You have to think about us, not your love gaining rust. Could you understand you can’t touch this? Truly to stimulate others into bliss. No more what you think it’s what you know. It’s the universe and the civilization’s show. So what you go through, do you have a plan to make it true? You have the right to be treated like a King or Queen by your projection. So what is your projection? Others can lay hands or their minds on you. What do you surround yourself with?

Signed: Benny Diaz
Posted by:Benny DiazAugust 28, 2008 11:23:10 PMRespond ^
Dear, Family

Life pressures you to separate the boy from the man, the girl from the woman. When you need that boy or girl to be happy. That creative view sees you through the crashing blow, that almost done you in. Born to smile, for we the prince or princes in the universe same as you. Wondering what God would do, so I can fill them shoes. My muscles raw, my shield at it’s peak. Main muscle my brain keeping me from going insane. The boy back into the man or girl back into the woman, not taking pressure for an answer. Generosity is not a given but earned. Feels like magic, it is because you know the secret. From a thunder voice of the many that left their words. When in the universe it’s hugs and kisses? Time to stop the history clock from going around. Always think to the fundamental of everything you are about to do. Makes it obvious, is this the universe of hugs and kisses? How is generosity earned? How long will it take you to figure that out? It will take the control that is what is within your soul, look in the mirror, that is the control to only speak of. Balance the scale be on the level. To have compassion, you also have to earn it.

You have to love to love others, you have to have a good heart to stop the history clock from turning. You have already been given a gift it is up to you to use it. Iron grip reality change the future don’t live in history cycle. You then can see the true projection, nothing, I mean there is nothing to die for. When one chooses to die that is their projection what they truly needed or wanted. When one says love is not for me that is their projection. There will always be that black and white, still that is nothing to die for but you will. When I say die, it is not like the die we would think, there are lots of ways to die.

That may not seem fair, love is always fair. A bad choice is deceptive, a wrong choice is a mistake, the right choice is love, think of all them projections. As we all hold the power of choice as well as love. It’s like the comparison, why have a boat when it can’t float on water? Why do you need a boat when you can walk on water? What is inside of me is also inside of you. What is projection? The answer is, it is you. Now you know the mind readers secret.

Remember being a child you knew things still you where unsure of. You seek for answers, you had good and bad times, you where innocent, and integrated yourself with your surroundings. Most of all you wanted love and needed to have fun. As you depended and some didn’t have that luxury, therefore, they needed the secret to life more than ever. To not be in the middle of life and fall into the bad projection. Not be the survival of the fittest but to cradle the weak. With pure love and honesty with an iron grip creating for yourself and others.

As I ask this question I would like you to be totally honest with yourself. Is money a need or a want? As a worker need tools to get the job done, we can see deeper in others projection of money and if it’s a need to them or a want. By now you can see the history clock still turning. We are at War now what does that tell you, that we will be at War again. Now who is lying? You haves the power to stop the history clock. We all have the gift, we all know the secret. To be honest here, was it us or the government that controls, causing all this War business?

When government’s business... should be creating. Are our elderly safe and taken care of? Are our childrens education a money problem... can you see the projection yet? Who wants true freedom? Who knows what true freedom is? I can tell you this freedom is not working for a 4 year to 8 year term then always having a paycheck for the rest of your life. When the rest of us just sit back and do nothing about the governments controlling projection. How could a person create the highest value of everyone needs are taken care of? How could one know the ones that need help? I guess the projection is clear because we are by no means that evolved.

A criminal goes to jail that is all, a person goes to war that is all. When it’s all over and the time is spent the criminal and the vet are treated the same. The criminal or the vet could earn a noble prize but we still only see with our eyes. There will be the hungry and the homeless. There will be the greedy and the day dreamer and there will be many. True you will always have the very few noble prize winners. Our history is the fact holder to this fact as the history clock turns as so does the world. How could one snowball you switching truths being the second hand on the history clock?

The Mirror

The mirror tells, projects you know colors and shades. Creative view this search for pure security. Behaving good bright like a star, be sure searching security. Passing away the shade of gray, metaphor way our survival, security. The shade of gray it is in the middle, it is mental.

A search for pure security. Please tell me why red rose for love? My eyes, sun rise in search for pure security. Black and white surround the gray. The battles inside of your head, in need for pure security. As we rise out of the ghetto as creators that’s who we are. Might of lived in but wasn’t part of the ghetto. We protected our self from the anticivilization and the government.

With my baby steps my parents drilled in my mind and heart love, honesty to create values. They knew what I was going to have to go through. It might seem cruel my sentence to grow in the ghetto of the anticivilization and cheating government. As I moved out of my mothers house she reminded me to stay in my baby steps and be a man. Always for me to remember, I will always be her little baby. In my journey that made me think about raising a baby, here now is my metaphor in our God his creation his journey he is raising us his baby.

I meet a woman made my own family with my queen. As the years went by my family grew, I struggled to take care of my babies. I don’t have time to waste and to repeat to my babies what my parents taught me. At times it’s awesome experience but sometimes it’s terrifying. Bluntly I had and did take control of myself. To be the mentor to my children like my parents where to me. Still not all my babies did not arise. I could be a freak of nature cause I can’t reach the knife in my back. I could only imagine how our mentor feels of some of the writings like me we have read. My son was raised by his mother. It wasn’t till he was almost grew that I was finally able to win custody. I’m strict and firm and the wife asked why am I so mean, then she says never mind she sees all the love in my eyes.



Here is your disclaimer no more invisible but invincible. You have to think about us, not your love gaining rust. Could you understand you can’t touch this? Truly to stimulate others into bliss. No more what you think it’s what you know. It’s the universe and the civilization’s show. So what you go through, do you have a plan to make it true? You have the right to be treated like a King or Queen by your projection. So what is your projection? Others can lay hands or their minds on you. What do you surround yourself with?

Signed: Benny Diaz
Posted by:Benny DiazAugust 28, 2008 11:35:42 PMRespond ^

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