Conspiracy Watch: Fluoride as Pinko Plot
Commentary: Since the 1940s, Americans have been swallowing fluoride with their drinking water. Is it time to stop?
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the conspiracy: Starting in the mid-'40s, American cities began putting fluoride into their drinking water under the guise of preventing childhood tooth decay. Freedom-loving Americans found it hard to swallow. As Dr. Strangelove's Brig. General Jack D. Ripper put it, "Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?"
the conspiracy theorists: The John Birch Society peddled the fluoride-as-pinko-plot idea for many years. (One Bircher recently quipped, "Don't be surprised if we learn soon that the fluoride in Chinese toothpaste is nuclear waste from North Korea.") Today, fluoridation opponents include scientists and environmentalists who say overexposure can cause serious health effects. The Fluoride Action Network, the most prominent anti-fluoridation group, was cofounded by former Sierra Club executive director and ecoguru David Brower.
meanwhile, back on earth: Those toothless paranoids may have been partly right. Though fluoride's not eroding our moral fiber, research shows that too much of it eats away teeth and bones. Which is a problem, since it's not just in 59 percent of Americans' water; it's also turning up in foods made with fluoridated water, including ice cream, hot dogs, and beer.
Kookiness Rating:
(1=maybe they're on to something, 5=break out the tinfoil hat!)
Illustration: Peter Hoey

Brushing my teeth this morning will be done with baking soda.
OK colgate et; al;....There are only 3 of us that posted here today so far, looks like your secret is safe as apathy rules anymore.
Read the January 2008 Scientific American which did a much better investigation of the fluoridation science.
Modern science shows that fluoridation is ineffective at reducing tooth decay, is harmful to health and is a waste of tax dollars.
Over 1,700 professionals urge Congress to halt fluoridation and conduct hearings to hold federal officials in the Centers for Disease Control's oral health division, specifically, accountable for promoting fluoridation in the face of growing evidence of harm.
You can support them by petitioning your representatives here:
http://congress.fluoridealert.org
7,000 members of eleven Environmental Protection Agency unions made up of scientists and other professionals urge an end to fluoridation, also.
Fluoride is neither a nutrient nor essential for healthy teeth. Fluoride is a drug and, like all drugs, has adverse side effects.
And David Brower did not co-found the Fluoride Action Network
Is Mother Jones hiring fact-checkers these days? I'm very disappointed with how Mother Jones handled this story.
For more information:
Fluoridation 101
http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof
Fluoridation News Releases
http://tinyurl.com/6kqtu
Tooth Decay Crises in Fluoridated Areas
http://www.fluoridenews.blogspot.com/
Fluoride Action Network http://www.FluorideAction.Net
Fluoride Journal http://www.FluorideResearch.Org
Fluoride, in the form of silicofluorides, injected into 2/3 of U.S. public water supplies, ostensibly to reduce tooth decay, was never safety-tested.(B)
“Many Americans are exposed to fluoride in the ranges associated with thyroid effects, especially for people with iodine deficiency,” says Kathleen Thiessen, PhD, co-author of the government-sponsored NRC report. “The recent decline in iodine intake in the U.S could contribute to increased toxicity of fluoride for some individuals,” says Thiessen.
“A low level of thyroid hormone can increase the risk of cardiac disease, high cholesterol, depression and, in pregnant woman, decreased intelligence of offspring,” said Thiessen.(C)
Common thyroid symptoms include fatigue, weight gain, constipation, fuzzy thinking, low blood pressure, fluid retention, depression, body pain, slow reflexes, and more. It’s estimated that 59 million Americans have thyroid conditions.(D)
Robert Carton, PhD, an environmental scientist who worked for over 30 years for the U.S. government including managing risk assessments on high priority toxic chemicals, says “fluoride has detrimental effects on the thyroid gland of healthy males at 3.5 mg a day. With iodine deficiency, the effect level drops to 0.7 milligrams/day for an average male.”(E) (1.0 mg/L fluoride is in most water supplies)
Among many others, the NRC Report cites human studies which show
- fluoride concentrations in thyroids exceeding that found in other soft tissues except kidney
- an association between endemic goiter and fluoride exposure or enamel fluorosis in human populations
- fluoride adversely affects thyroid and parathyroid hormones, which affect bone health
“If you have a thyroid problem, avoiding fluoride may be a good preventive health measure for you,” writes Drs’ Richard and Karilee Shames in “Thyroid Power.”(F).
Scientific American quotes John Doull, professor emeritus of pharmacology and toxicology at the University of Kansas Medical Center, who chaired the NRC committee: “The thyroid changes do worry me.”
“Fluoride can harm bones, teeth, kidneys, the brain and more,” says lawyer Paul Beeber, President, New York State Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation. "It's time to stop fluoridation."
References:
(A) "Fluoride in Drinking Water: A Scientific Review of EPA's Standards," Committee on Fluoride in Drinking Water, Board on Environmental Studies and Toxicology, Division on Earth and Life Studies, National Research Council of the National Academies of Science. March 2006 Chapter 8
http://www.nap.edu/catalog.php?record_id=11571
"Thyroid Function: Fluoride exposure in humans is associated with elevated TSH concentrations, increased goiter prevalence, and altered T4 and T3 concentrations." (Page 262)
"(The thyroid effects are associated with average fluoride intakes that) will be reached by persons with average exposures at fluoride concentrations of 1-4 mg/L in drinking water, especially the children." (Page 260)
(B) Sodium Hexafluorosilicate and Fluorosilicic Acid
Review of Toxicological Literature, October 2001
http://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/ntp/htdocs /Chem_Background/ExSumPDF/Fluorosilicates.pdf
(C) Chemical & Engineering News, “Fluoride Risks Are Still A Challenge,” by Bette Hileman, September 4, 2006,
http://pubs.acs.org/cen/government/84/8436gov1.html
(D) Mary Shomon, About.com Thyroid editor, Patient Advocate -- Author of "The Thyroid Diet" and "Living Well With Hypothyroidism"
http://thyroid.about.com/
(E) Fluoride, “Review of the 2006 National Research Council Report: Fluoride in Drinking Water,” July-September 2006, by Robert J. Carton
http://www.fluorideresearch.org/393 /files/FJ2006_v39_n3_p163-172.pdf
(F) Thyroid Power and Feeling Fat Fuzzy or Frazzeled“by Richard Shames MD & Karilee Shames RN, PhD http://www.thyroidpower.com http://www.feelingfff.com/
Fluoride/Thyroid Health Effects
http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/thyroid/
Sources of Fluoride
http://www.fluoridealert.org/f-sources.htm
Sulfuryl Fluoride Pesticide Residues Allowed on Foods
http://www.fluoridealert.org/pesticides/sulfuryl.f.all.food.html
United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) National Fluoride Database of Selected Beverages and Foods
http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/Data/Fluoride/Fluoride.html
Dental cavities are WAAAAAAYYYYYYY down. When I was a kid, I probably had 20 cavities. Today, my kids have had 1 or 2. It is a wonderful thing for dental health. Floridation is one public health measure that worked as promised.
Of course, wackos believe all kinds o mindless moronic [deleted], as can be seen in some of the comments here.
hmmm..can't think of any other government around that might be trying to brainwash its citizens... (And judging from some of the posts here the fluoride is starting to work!!!)
waste product that is harmful. In fact, it has been proven that giving prisoners fluoride makes them passive and easy to manage. It is a conspiracy, and bad for your health. Just think about a whole nation on fluoride, and how easy to manage they'd be. I'd appreciate it if you would check into this subject more
completely, and (it is not a joke.)
"Wow. Next it's gonna be the TURRIBLE HURRUBLE threat from high-powered electric lines, making our cats glow in the dark.
Dental cavities are WAAAAAAYYYYYYY down. When I was a kid, I probably had 20 cavities. Today, my kids have had 1 or 2. It is a wonderful thing for dental health. Floridation is one public health measure that worked as promised.
Of course, wackos believe all kinds o mindless moronic [deleted], as can be seen in some of the comments here."
Posted by:POed LibMay 28, 2008 1:30:22
the disease was relatively absent where the water supply had traces of fluoride.
After some preliminary tests programs
were initiated to add fluoride to the water supply. The incidence of caries
has been greatly reduced over the years
but not elimiated. It was of course known fluoride is a serious poison in larger quantities (I think 4 mg/L is too high causing risk of accumulation in bones which would be noticeable in elderly over 60. )If the water supply is in good contact with native Fluorspar there should be no need to add any Fluoride. The solubility coefficient of Calcium Fluoride is extremely low;
it is one of the more insoluble salts.
That of course would make it impossible to remove from bone once it accumulates.
At the same time it is the reason it strengthens tooth enamel.
The iodine reversal could be another problem now that people as recommended are cutting down on sodium salt. As Fluoride has such a high reduction potential it is difficult to see how it would directly oxidize to substitute in place of the iodine of T2. However microbes, such as yeast are known for mutations that can carry out amazing catalyses. I shall try to find studies if any F substituted hormones were found to block thyroid receptors.
I had a few deformed teeth ( that was NOT a part of our family geneology.
At an early age we moved from Minnesota to a state that had no floridation policy...my teeth improved. I have been brushing with nothing more than baking soda for a long time and guess what...NO CAVITIES!
I think that you are discounting the better care that you are taking of your children.
There really IS NO NEED for it to be put into the water; do you want the government to fold the tissue before they wipe our......?
The crap they put in the water is from phosphate fertilizer pollution scrubbers - I'm the guy that broke the story back in 1995 and subsequent expose articles that appeared in environmental mags such as Earth Island journal.
It's evident that Gilson has been under the 'tinfoil dunce cap for far to long.
Stainless steel cookware as hats on this one!
So, inversely up to 99% of the Silicofluoride treated drinking/tap waters from any Water Treatment Utility never reaches the lips, or is ever swallowed by the Water Bill Ratepayers.
Thus, ‘Fluoridation’ by drinking water delivery is the Worlds Most economically Wasteful, illogical ‘medicant’ delivery system' on the face of this Earth!
Read article about Amer. Dental Assoc. and U.S. CDC [Center for Disease Control] WARNINGS to prevent Babies/Infants from getting any “fluoride”:
http://www.mothering.com/sections/n ews_bulletins/november2006.html#fluoride
I use non-fluoride toothpaste, and encourage all parents to do the same with your children & yourselves.
The forword give the source and process evolving the fluoridation agent and note 'very corrosive'. Another sentence: "The transfer of contaminants from chemicals to processed water or the residual solids is becoming a problem of greater concern." Then page 13 is an entire page of contaminants ranging from heavy metals as arsenic, lead, etc down to 'radionuclides' as uranium and radium 226-228, all low levels, but depending on your diet's calcium, can be cumulative in teeth, bones and tissues, even crosses the Blood Brain Barrier, which is why Prozac, Paxil, and Luvox are fluorinated antidepressants. See The Merck Index.
Look up the element; Fluorine, which forms fluorides, most reactive of all elements and used to enrich the isotopes of uranium for nuclear power.
Two government books available from library Interlibrary Loan, that will also clear up the question are;
1, Toxicological Profile for Fluorides, Hydrogen Fluoride, and Fluorine (F) 1993, see pages 112, 125, 128 and 129.
2. Health Effects of Ingested Fluoride, 1993, National Academy of Sciences' report for Congress. See pages; 5, 11, 16, 30, 34 (color pix of moderate to severe dental fluorosis), 41, 44-45 (cavities form in these weakened teeth), 128 (soft drinks and processed foods are major sources), and 129 (High dietary levels of calcium can form insoluble complexes with fluoride, making it unabsorbable from the gastrointestinal tract.)
1. Library reference section, look up the element Fluorine that forms fluorides and see the history.
2. In Merck Index, look up element Fluorine and see that it combines with most all other elements. And..most sources are the phosphate fertilizer industries wet scrubbers that use tons of aquifier water that fills cooling ponds with fluorosilicic acid, most often used commercial grade fluoridation agent.
3. Request the AWWA Standard for Fluorosilicic Acid B703-06 from the local utilities department. See an entire page of contaminants ranging from heavy metals as arsenic, lead, and radionuclides as uranium and radium 226-228. Low levels, but can be cumulative in people with poor diets.
canadian provincial gov study
I've heard (I think it was on "Now" on PBS)that a large amount of the drugs that we take, pass through our urine, into the sewage line, and travel to the sewage treatment plants; where the urine is "purifid" into drinking water, & put back into the public water system; and that some of them (such as the hormones from birth controll pills) are composed of molecules so small that the sewage treatment plants can't filter them out; & the contaminated water goes right back into the tap water.